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Minutes of the IUPAP Working Group (WG.9) on International Cooperation in Nuclear Physics (ICNP), held at CERN on May 29, 2008, in Bldg 59, Salle B.


  • Anthony W. Thomas (Chair) - JLab
  • Willem T.H. van Oers (Secretary) - Manitoba
  • Samuel H. Aronson (BNL)
  • Richard F. Casten (Past-Chair NSAC) - Yale
  • Brian Fulton (Chair NuPECC) - York
  • Sydney Gales - GANIL/IN2P3
  • Muhsin N. Harakeh (Past-Chair NuPECC) - KVI
  • Alinka Lepine-Szily - Sao Paulo
  • Dong-Pil Min - Seoul National University
  • Shoji Nagamiya - J-Parc
  • Jean-Michel Poutissou - TRIUMF
  • Hideyuki Sakai (Chair JNPEC) - Tokyo
  • Horst Stoecker - GSI
  • Wenlong Zhan - Lanzhou


  • Walter F. Henning (Chair C12) - ANL
  • Victor A. Matveev - INR-Moscow
  • Tohru Motobayashi - RIKEN
  • Robert Tribble (Chair NSAC) - Texas A&M

Present as observers:

  • Stuart J, Freedman - UC-Berkeley
  • Dan-Olof Riska - Helsinki
  • Wen-Qing Shen - CNSF-Shanghai
  • Pia Thorngren-Engblom - Stockholm University

Special Guest: Stefan Michalowski - Executive Secretary Global

Science Forum

* Opening of the meeting by the Chair, Anthony W. Thomas.

He expressed thanks to Robert Aymar for agreeing to express words of welcome; thanked Dan-Olof Riska and his secretarial assistent, Marika Flygar, for all the arrangements made holding the two IUPAP meetings at CERN; mentioned that most members of IUPAP WG.9 have travelled a long way, but without this sacrifice nothing would be happening or can be accomplished. * Words of Welcome by Robert Aymar, Director-General of CERN, with comments about the anticipated excitement in particle and nuclear physics with the near start of the LHC and the discoveries expected about what gives mass to the elementary particles and what constitues dark matter and dark energy. Note that ALICE is very much within the domain of nuclear physics.

* Approval of the agenda

* Approval of the minutes of the 2007 Annual General Meeting of WG.9, held in Tokyo at the time of INPC2007 on June 3, 2007 (minutes had been circulated prior to the meeting via e-mail).


* The Chair remarked that since the last IUPAP General Assembly Meeting in Capetown, South Africa, October 26-28, 2005, WG.9 has become an IUPAP Working Group; it has produced IUPAP Report 41, which contains a description of the current forefront nuclear physics issues and describes the 90 nuclear physics users facilities worldwide; it has participated in the OECD Global Science Forum Working Group on Nuclear Physics. Furthermore, a brief report on what WG.9's objectives are was presented at INPC2007 and published in the Proceedings of that conference. See attached INPC-WG9-29-05-08.pdf The Chair will report on the activities of WG.9 in the period 2006-2008 at the IUPAP General Assembly in Tsukuba, October 14-18, 2008.

* Report from the Secretary regarding IUPAP Report 41: Printed version published April 12, 2007; electronic version on July 9, 2007 [ ]; updating of the electronic version every two years to start January 1, 2009, with requests to all who responded with regard to the first version of IUPAP Report 41. Still missing are some entries from Russia and India.

* Report from the Chair on the OECD Global Science Forum Working Group on Nuclear Physics Report [ see attached - OECD-GSF-NPWG-Report-19-05-08.pdf ]; the ten recommendations of the OECD GSF Report and the implications for WG,9; the letter written by Hermann-Friedrich Wagner as Chair of the OECD Global Science Forum to WG.9 with specific requests.

Note that of particular reference to the IUPAP Working Group WG.9 are recommendations 5 and 8, with the latter asking to articulate on an ongoing basis a global scientific roadmap for nuclear physics.

Stefan Michalowski explains the legal framework of the OECD GSF with membership of the OECD countries plus various intergovernmental organizations, like CERN, JINR; the question then arises: if WG.9 is to update the roadmap for nuclear physics on a regular basis and makes recommendations on facilities to implement this roadmap to whom should it address these findings; how to get this to Science Administrators in Governments? The OECD GSF Working Group on Nuclear Physics will cease to exist with the publication of its report. It was decided after some discussion that the Chair of IUPAP WG.9, Anthony W. Thomas, will write to both the Chair of the OECD Global Science Forum, Hermann-Friedrich Wagner,and the Chair of the OECD GSF Working Group on Nuclear Physics, Dennis Kovar posing the question.

UPAP WG.9 also received an invitation to send a delegate to the OECD GSF Workshop on "Enhancing the Utility and Policy Relevance of Roadmaps of Large Research Infrastructures", to be held in Bologna, Italy, June 10-11, 2008, to be chaired by Hermann-Friedrich Wagner. . Robert Tribble will be asked to attend.

Brian Fulton made comments on a comparison with other subdisciplines regarding funding for operations, for scientific and technical personnel including their size in terms of numbers (see the OECD GSF Report on Nuclear Physics). He noted that not all want to do this exercise, e.g., astronomy and astrophysics.

For high-energy physics one notes the committee of Funding Agencies for Large Colliders (FALC).

The G8 Science and Technology Ministers will meet in Okinawa, Japan, on June 15, 2008, to discuss (for a first time) among other large-scale research facilities.

A further comment was that the discipline of nuclear physics appears to be well organized but still it has a prevalent image problem.

* Subcommittee Reports:

Alinka Lepine-Szily presented her report on "The Requirements for the Functioning of an Effective, Truly International, User Facility with Access of Users Worldwide" [ see attached - International-Users-Facilities.doc ] Comments from Jean-Michel Poutissou, Dong-Pil Min and Horst Stoecker (the latter about GSI initiatives in this context). He also asked whether the Director of FAIR, once appointed, should not become a member of WG.9.

uhsin Harakeh suggested the formation of regional planning committees, in particular for Asia and South-America. This suggestion was considered further the following day during the Annual General Meeting of C12, with initial actions taken.

There was no presentation on "The Generalization of Developing the Sources of Funding for Networking Facilities (as in the EU)". Regrets from Walter F. Henning.

Richard F. Casten suggested not to take action at this time and keep track of further developments regarding "Future Rare Isotope Facilities" : One has noted the Funding Opportunity Announcement (FOA) by the Office of Nuclear Physics of the US DoE for a Facility for Rare Isotope Beams (FRIB), with a recommended total cost of USD 550M, on May 20, 2008 with a deadline for submissions of July 21, 2008. However, FRIB is to be considered as a regional facility as per the OECD GSF Report. Various studies are going on in Europe with regard to the future Eurisol, which is to be an international facility. The NuPECC Roadmap for Construction of Nuclear Physics Research Infrastructures in Europe places EURISOL at its highest priority after FAIR. Various design studies have been initiated [ see attached - NuPECC-Roadmap.pdf ].

Samuel H. Aronson reported on "Future Electron-Ion Colliders". See attached IEIC-29-05-08.ppt

* Reports from the Chairs of

- NSAC (Richard F. Casten for Robert Tribble).
See attached NSAC-Report-WG9-29-05-08.ppt

- NuPECC (Brian Fulton)
The next NuPECC Long Range Plan is scheduled for release in 2009.

- JNPEC (Hideyuki Sakai)
See attached NPEC-J.pdf

On the next TRIUMF 5-Year Plan (Jean-Michel Poutissou)
Information on the TRIUMF 5-Year can be found going to under 'Next 5-Year Plan' and then 'STEP SEVEN'

New facility plans in Korea (Dong-Pil Min)
Large outlays for new facility construction as fraction of the Korean GDP were presented.

* Composition of the IUPAP Working Group WG.9. As can be noted above the current composition is an Executive consisting of a Chair and a Secretary plus the the Chair and the Past-Chairs of NSAC and NuPECC, the Chair of NPEC- Japan, the directors of the major Nuclear Physics Facilities, plus various representativies of other countries with important nuclear physics programs.

* Next meeting of the two IUPAP committees:

At the time of FB19 at the University of Bonn
= WG.9 on Sunday, August 30, 2009
= C12 on Monday, August 31, 2009.

Dates need to be confirmed with the Organizer of FB19, Ulf-G. Meissner.

* Visit of ALICE and CERN-ISOLDE: informative and much appreciated.

* Working Dinner with discussions about the composition of WG.9. Considering the composition of ICFA and its relation to C11, it appears that WG.9 follows a similar approach in both its membership composition and its relation to the relevant IUPAP Commission (in this case C12).

* On behalf of WG.9 the Chair thanked Dan-Olof Riska and CERN for the kind hospitality extended.


TRIUMF, Vancouver, 23 June 2008

Willem T.H. van Oers, Secretary of IUPAP WG.9


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